It was the first time we'd got out of London (to Glasgow) and the first time a CEO had sung to us about jam sandwiches. We also got an insight into deprivation and regeneration from the boss of Social Enterprise Scotland.
Is enough of the right kind of social investment available to social ventures at the smaller end of the market? We meet Resilient Scotland, a social investment finance intermediary, which is doing its bit to plug the gap.
"It's too damn expensive to get money," said Fraser Kelly of Social Enterprise Scotland. A lively debate brought the NatWest SE100 Leadership Event 2017 to a close yesterday.